John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse.

In an interview with People Magazine, John and Elizabeth Edwards made clear that they would not endorse either Obama or Clinton.

Bottom line: the couple said they will not endorse either remaining candidate, saving their political capital for their own causes - his, fighting poverty; hers, fighting for universal health care.

People: John & Elizabeth Edwards: What We Like (and Dislike) About Clinton & Obama

More, after the fold.

Elizabeth Edwards likes Clinton's universal health care plan, but does not like the "lobbyist money."

She likes that Obama "has motivated so many young people to be involved," but does not like "his health care plan or his advertising on health care, which I think is misleading."

People: John & Elizabeth Edwards: What We Like (and Dislike) About Clinton & Obama

John Edwards "think[s] [Clinton's] tenacity shows a real strength that's inside her," but does not like that there is "still a lot of the old politics."

On Obama, John Edwards likes that Obama " really does want to bring about serious change and a different way of doing things."  He also "think[s} it's a great symbolic thing to have an African-American who could be president."  But with Obama, "[s]ometimes I want to see more substance under the rhetoric."

People: John & Elizabeth Edwards: What We Like (and Dislike) About Clinton & Obama

Elizabeth adds that it's also a "great symbolic thing about a woman," a proposition with which John Edwards agreed.

 People: John & Elizabeth Edwards: What We Like (and Dislike) About Clinton & Obama

Like many people, they see strengths and weaknesses in both candidates. So do I.

John Edwards in his withdrawal speech articulated what matter most to me:

And we do this -- we do this for each other in America. We don't turn away from a neighbor in their time of need. Because every one of us knows that what -- but for the grace of God, there goes us. The American people have never stopped doing this, even when their government walked away, and walked away it has from hardworking people, and, yes, from the poor, those who live in poverty in this country.

For decades, we stopped focusing on those struggles. They didn't register in political polls, they didn't get us votes and so we stopped talking about it. I don't know how it started. I don't know when our party began to turn away from the cause of working people, from the fathers who were working three jobs literally just to pay the rent, mothers sending their kids to bed wrapped up in their clothes and in coats because they couldn't afford to pay for heat.

We know that our brothers and sisters have been bullied into believing that they can't organize and can't put a union in the workplace. Well, in this campaign, we didn't turn our heads. We looked them square in the eye and we said, "We see you, we hear you, and we are with you. And we will never forget you." And I have a feeling that if the leaders of our great Democratic Party continue to hear the voices of working people, a proud progressive will occupy the White House.

Remarks Of John Edwards In New Orleans

The Democratic Party must not turn away from the cause of working people anymore, no matter who is nominated.



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Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 11)

Tips for John and Elizabeth Edwards and the cause of working people.


by TomP on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:52:06 PM EST

Thanks for starting out with a positive comment... (2.00 / 6)

...because the nastiness from both camps is on its way.... its already on display at TPM's comments. Internet Derangement Syndrome will get the Edwardses savaged as no good phonies for not endorsing whichever candidate the angry commenter-of-the-moment prefers.

Just wait and see...


by odum on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:57:25 PM EST
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It seems like its been that way (2.00 / 4)

for a while now. Maybe after the NC primary some of the savagery will die down. I hope so, John and Elizabeth deserve a lot better. The nastiness shows in part I think why they chose not to endorse.

I wonder how much we will hear about poverty from either candidate after tomorrow?

Once we do have a nominee, both John and Elizabeth will be assets in framing the debate against the Republicans. I have a strong feeling they will be leading the way on progressive issues then, just as they did while John was running for the nomination.


by okamichan13 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:29:45 PM EST
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Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 1)

It's probably best for them to stay out of the fray.  Let them focus on the issues of greatest importance to themselves without the distractions that endorsement would cause.


by Montague on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:18:22 AM EST
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God Bless Them (2.00 / 4)


   both. A true testament to the phenomenon that the best candidate for us all doesn't always win!!
by southernman on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:53:24 PM EST

Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 7)

John & Elizabeth = Class act. That's why I originally supported Edwards.


by soyousay on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:56:13 PM EST

Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 2)

I agree, they do show a lot of class here. Very diplomatic answers.


If Hillary walked on water, she would be criticized for not swimming and if Obama swam, he would be lauded for being able to do what Hillary could not do.
by portia9 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:00:30 PM EST
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More power to them (2.00 / 5)

They're smart enough to realize that any endorsement won't endear them to one side of the divide so much as it will alienate the other.  They are serious about their causes and I respect that.


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 07:58:22 PM EST

Well, "working people" are voting... (none / 0)

...for Hillary over Barack. That's just the facts, plain and simple. Any poll verifies this.

So, if working people are voting for Clinton, what does that mean about where the Edwards really stand? Will they vote in their own primary? (Or, have they voted already?) Well, gosh, I wonder for whom they voted? (Not really; it's self-evident whom they support, despite their refusal to go public with it.)


by bobswern on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:00:07 PM EST

Re: Well, "working people" are voting... (2.00 / 3)

Black people don't work?


by elrod on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:08:32 PM EST
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They work, and they also get sick.. (none / 0)

so if I were them, I'd consider voting for Hillary..


Universal healthcare IS a Democratic value
It's been defeated
Obama has the best $PIN that money can buy.
by architek on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:12:28 PM EST
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DIARY HIJACK (none / 0)

Would you mind getting back to the subject, please?


by 4justice on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:25:44 PM EST
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Re: Well, "working people" are voting... (2.00 / 1)

What do you mean by 'working people?'

I guarantee you that 99% of those who have voted are employed or looking for employment, or retired.  Just who do you think has been voting for Obama?


by Lawyerish on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:11:31 PM EST
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Re: Well, "working people" are voting... (2.00 / 1)

Apparently only middle class white males in the Rust Belt are "working people" now.  I guess they don't work in WI, MN, IA, OR, etc.


by rfahey22 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:26:09 PM EST
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Re: Well, "working people" are voting... (2.00 / 2)

Working class African Americans, like 80 to 90% of African Americans who have voted to date support Obama.

The influence of race on white and black working class voters is a heavily contested issue.


by TomP on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:34:28 PM EST
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What are they getting for that vote? (none / 0)

Obama wont even visit black neighborhoods...


Universal healthcare IS a Democratic value
It's been defeated
Obama has the best $PIN that money can buy.
by architek on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:15:27 PM EST
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Gotta love the Edwardses (2.00 / 3)

I'm sure people in Iowa are right now hitting themselves in the head thinking "why didn't we caucus for this guy? He's so much better than the other two"... Shoulda, woulda, coulda... not going to happen. I wish him the best luck in whatever he chooses to do in his political or non-political life.


by KainIIIC on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:01:43 PM EST

Re: Gotta love the Edwardses (none / 0)

Let me tell you, as an Iowan, I'm pretty upset at what Iowa did.


by Montague on Tue May 06, 2008 at 12:20:13 AM EST
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Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (1.50 / 2)

Working people?

Who are they?
White trash - selon Randi Rhodes.
Racists according to nearly everyone at Daily Kos.
Misguided Latinos if they happen to be brown.

The Democratic Party hasn't given a rat's ass about working people in a generation.


by johnnygunn on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:03:37 PM EST

Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 1)

That is why there is so much work to be done.


by TomP on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:07:09 PM EST
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Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 1)

Or maybe black people who, last I checked, were solidly in the working class as a whole.


by elrod on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:09:36 PM EST
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Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (none / 0)

Funny, though -
Even though black working people are voting 85% for Obama,
they are not being called ignorant racists.
by johnnygunn on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:12:38 PM EST
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Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (none / 0)

Such cogent arguments. You should be solicitor general.


by gert on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:26:30 PM EST
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Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (none / 0)

Indeed.
Given the number of diaries you have poster, perhaps it should be you, instead.
As Chip 'n Dale used to say, "After you!"
by johnnygunn on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:53:38 PM EST
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Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (none / 0)

no, I insist, after you!


by gert on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:09:36 PM EST
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At least now (2.00 / 1)

People can stop spreading rumors of impending endorsements just because they happen to see an Edwards' speaking with Clinton or Obama.


by highgrade on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:12:50 PM EST

Or even if one of them (2.00 / 2)

has the audacity to support one of the candidates platforms.

Its funny - they've been saying they wouldn't endorse for months now. I guess its finally sinking in to the media.


by okamichan13 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:32:23 PM EST
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Re: Or even if one of them (none / 0)

THe most annoying was the several times when there would be huge BREAKING NEWS headlines about how Clinton and Edwards gasp SPOKE backstage and had a conversation!!


by highgrade on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:49:46 PM EST
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I appreciate John and Elizabeth (1.50 / 2)

and their continued work and voice, but in all seriousness, what is this "old politics" he is referring to?  Because from what I've seen out of the guy claiming NEW politics, it's just the NeoCon attacks being used by a Democrat, on a fellow Democrat, kind a like the NeoLiberal vs the NeoCon and that is not something I'm wanting to perpetuate.  Was this the "New" word, brought to us by Axelrod, the Axe?  I'll take Old any day.


by LindaSFNM on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:22:06 PM EST

Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 3)

I still can't decide which of the Edwards I like better.  :)  I would have liked to see an Obama endorsement, but I certainly understand and respect their choice here.  Moreover, I hope - and am hopeful - that each will continue to stay involved on the national stage going forward, regardless of who wins this contest.  The party and the country are better off for their voices.  


by HSTruman on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:28:55 PM EST

Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (none / 0)

The time for an Edwards endorsement is long past relevancy.

Although I supported Edwards in 2004 and 2008, I now see him as weak and spineless.  Maybe that's why he never got huge support this year... others saw what I couldn't?

At least John Kerry had the conviction to make an endorsement early.  I didn't agree with him and it didn't seem to matter in Massachusetts but at least he stuck his neck out.

John Edwards, like Barack Obama, will never put his own neck on the line.


by wblynch on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:31:28 PM EST

Your comment is so obnoxious. (2.00 / 1)

Hillary Clinton does not agree with you.

In fact, I think you likely fit your depiction.  Got a little e-courage, but would wet your pants in person.

Both Clinton and Obama could kick your sorry ass.


by TomP on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:36:09 PM EST
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Re: Your comment is so obnoxious. (none / 0)

I don't think so.. but whatever...


by wblynch on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:37:51 PM EST
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Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 1)

ahhhh. that is golden! stay gold JE and EE!


--++++Stay Gold, Ponyboy!++++--
by amde on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:37:08 PM EST

Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 1)

Wonderful! I wasn't sure about Edwards after the 2004 election, but I think he's got it right.


by TinaH1963 on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:44:28 PM EST

Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 1)

I was leaning toward Clinton because of her experience and health care plan, but then she up and pandered on the issue of gas tax. This means that she is not serious about global warming, and I gagged.

Now I am back to square one--undecided. All my money will go to the coattails. This year, the coattails will not get much help from the Democratic candidate at the top, so the coat tails need reinforcement. I figure any money I have to Clinton and Obama will just be used to help destroy the top of the Democratic ticket, whomever survives.

My position: Any Democrat for President


by CyberCitizen on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:44:52 PM EST

Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 0)

To CyberCitizen: I'm not sure that the tax gas holiday proposal is simply pandering.  A friend told me this weekend that she wasn't doing too well financially--the living paycheck to paycheck kind of reality--and that "every little bit helps" when it comes to economic relief (yes, even the gas tax holiday.) I think that Hillary understands the symbolism/message of immediate response more than a number of traditional "what are we to do" types.  So, I think that there are several levels to the proposal. (By the way: Fascinating that so many would discover the word "pander"...kind of looks like talking points and memos using that word multiple times were distributed to various outlets.  Hmmm.)


by christinep on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:58:12 PM EST
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Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 1)

It is not about the gas tax holiday.  It is about Hillary putting the republicans in a corner.  Simply -OK a gas tax break and we make it up with a Windfall Tax on the oil companies.

I'm actually very embarrassed that so many here can't see that.  Some are actually attacking Hillary as if she were McCain.  Hillary's plan has a big string that scares the republicans.

To me Obama is acting like a Junior Senator and Hillary is showing the skill it takes to be a leader.  

Unless you don't want a windfall tax on oil companies -Obama doesn't.  


by jelyfish on Mon May 05, 2008 at 09:51:14 PM EST
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re (2.00 / 1)

If Edwards was the nominee with the economy in shambles and the war still unpopular and with these gas prices he might have beaten McCain in 40 states and ushered in a huge Democratic realignment. Now with Obama or Clinton it will likely be a 53-47 win or maybe if they blow it a loss. I think Edwards-McCain would have been 56-44


by rossinatl on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:52:08 PM EST

Oh well (none / 0)

At this stage, their endorsement would just be for bragging rights for whomever they had decided upon. Not saying that they are unimportant, just that the timing window may have closed already.

Let's hope that they can remain a viable political force to ensure that their causes are being adequately addressed.

Great couple.


by Coldblue on Mon May 05, 2008 at 08:56:55 PM EST

The non-endorsment of both is telling. (2.00 / 1)

I expected this, personally, as a JRE supporter, and am still glad he is staying neutral, while supporting certain aspects of both candidates.  

For HRC, the health plan is good, but take a look at corporate stuff...telling her she needs to move further toward progressive values...

For Obama, he wants to bring out serious change in how things are done, great symbol for America to have an AA president, but he wishes he had more substance under the rhetoric.

So really, given what JRE has worked for, he could not endorse either fully.  I don't doubt he will throw his full support behind whomever is the nominee.  

And JRE still retains the positioning to help move them both in a progressive direction!


by 4justice on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:36:07 PM EST

Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 1)

Good Gawd, I miss the Edwardses.

Thank you John and Elizabeth...and TomP :)


by catchawave on Mon May 05, 2008 at 10:37:18 PM EST

Re: John and Elizabeth Edwards will Not Endorse. (2.00 / 1)

Credit where credit is due:

They are a class-act.


by bobbank on Mon May 05, 2008 at 11:35:53 PM EST


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